EQ2 Companion Beta tester Feedback

[gm9]

Yes, Server MD5 for this one is wrong, standard updater is having the same issue. I get the same local MD5 as you do.

Maybe this file is twice on the server, e.g. .dds and .DDS, and the server is checking the wrong one?

[jnils]

Originally Posted by gm9

Yes, Server MD5 for this one is wrong, standard updater is having the same issue. I get the same local MD5 as you do.

Maybe this file is twice on the server, e.g. .dds and .DDS, and the server is checking the wrong one?

Strange, this is the same error i got 2 weeks ago, told Dolby and he fix the MD5 , have been ok sinse.

So there is someting strange whit this file, works for me but not you

Edit: Tryed to delete the file, still works for me

[gm9]

Originally Posted by jnils

Strange, this is the same error i got 2 weeks ago, told Dolby and he fix the MD5 , have been ok sinse.

Fixing it for you probably broke it for us.

Edit to add: Saying that because I did not have this problem at the time you had it.

[jnils]

Found 1 thing , if you press the X in the agree window, you can still use the program :P

[jnils]

Originally Posted by gm9

Edit to add: Saying that because I did not have this problem at the time you had it.

For me the error only ocured if i made a new install or deleted the file.
The new file that was DL diden't match the MD5. Dolby corrected it

[dragowulf]

I do not have the problem either, and never did.

drago.

[Landiin]

Originally Posted by jnils

Found 1 thing , if you press the X in the agree window, you can still use the program :P

Woot! good catch jnils!

[Landiin]

Originally Posted by jnils

For me the error only ocured if i made a new install or deleted the file.
The new file that was DL diden't match the MD5. Dolby corrected it

Here is map_adv03_mystic_lake.dds's node from extrafile_list.xml that is on the server right now.

<Extra>
<FileName>map_adv03_mystic_lake.dds</FileName>
<Name>The Mystic Lake (Image)</Name>
<MD5>90327031b9f268d0e1c2bdbfbe8d106f</MD5>
<Modified>June 11 2006 21:46:17</Modified>
<Size>349670</Size>
<LocalPath>images/maps/</LocalPath>
<ServerPath>images/</ServerPath>
</Extra>

No matter how I get the file, via EQ2 Companion or with IE , Firefox directly from the site I get:

File: map_adv03_mystic_lake.dds
Size: 349670
Time: 10/16/2007 4:22:36 PM
MD5: 9547F8FEDA61A56410F09CCC1AF2B248
--------------------------------------------

It is clear that extrafile_list.xml file has the wrong MD5 listed for that file.

[jnils]

Originally Posted by Landiin

Here is map_adv03_mystic_lake.dds's node from extrafile_list.xml that is on the server right now.

<Extra>
<FileName>map_adv03_mystic_lake.dds</FileName>
<Name>The Mystic Lake (Image)</Name>
<MD5>90327031b9f268d0e1c2bdbfbe8d106f</MD5>
<Modified>June 11 2006 21:46:17</Modified>
<Size>349670</Size>
<LocalPath>images/maps/</LocalPath>
<ServerPath>images/</ServerPath>
</Extra>

No matter how I get the file, via EQ2 Companion or with IE , Firefox directly from the site I get:

File: map_adv03_mystic_lake.dds
Size: 349670
Time: 10/16/2007 4:22:36 PM
MD5: 9547F8FEDA61A56410F09CCC1AF2B248
--------------------------------------------

It is clear that extrafile_list.xml file has the wrong MD5 listed for that file.

I deleted the file again and now i have to agree , the file is messed up

The file must have changed again

I dident supply the MD5 to Dolby he must have calculated it himself, so how it can be wrong i don't know

Here is the old file that i get from the server that works

[gm9]

Thanks for the file, that one has the correct MD5. I assume you've already let Dolby know about this, otherwise please do.

[jonathn2875]

Well it looks like the new station launcher is open for beta at http://launcher.station.sony.com . When using eq2 companion it bypasses the station launcher and goes to launchpad. Anyway we might have a check put in to use station launcher? Its much sexier then launchpad

[Landiin]

Originally Posted by jonathn2875

Well it looks like the new station launcher is open for beta at http://launcher.station.sony.com . When using eq2 companion it bypasses the station launcher and goes to launchpad. Anyway we might have a check put in to use station launcher? Its much sexier then launchpad

Yea, I downloaded it this morning before going off to work. Looked at it for a bit, but kept getting time out connecting to server from it. I didn't have my reg scanner on when I installed it so I'll have to hunt to see if there is an easy way to detect where it is installed.

[Landiin]

Originally Posted by jnils

I deleted the file again and now i have to agree , the file is messed up

The file must have changed again

I dident supply the MD5 to Dolby he must have calculated it himself, so how it can be wrong i don't know

Here is the old file that i get from the server that works

Shouldn't the script that makes the filelist be getting it's MD5 from the files it is severing? The script I made that generates eXtreme's update filelist; scans all the files on the servers eXtreme path and generates the files list and MD5 of each file in that path dynamically when a file has changed. I just assumed EQ2MAP did something like this but after seeing this I am taken it that it pulls all this info from a database.

[gm9]

probably the same way the ProfitUI patcher works - MD5 is calculated client-side when you upload the files to the server and then stored in a database. If your upload goes wrong the MD5 will not match.

[Landiin]

Oh I hope not, that is a poor design IMHO but to each their own. I upload files, run a script that calculates file MD5 and builds the file list all from the DIR structure on the server.

[jnils]

The MD5 should be OK now

[gm9]

Originally Posted by Landiin

Oh I hope not, that is a poor design IMHO but to each their own. I upload files, run a script that calculates file MD5 and builds the file list all from the DIR structure on the server.

Hehehe, tell that to Kaldran. I had actually suggested building the list server-side via php or something but I guess it was easier for him to code it like he did. Also makes you more independent of where and how you host it though.

[Kaldran]

Actually I think it would be poor design if the file upload goes wrong and you build your filelist with the broken files. That files would be pushed to the users. If I precalculate them client side this can not happen, since the downloader just throws away files not matching.
Well, guess both designs are poor in their own way :P

[gm9]

Not that I would ever upload files incorrectly. *whistles*

[Landiin]

Ok, I have totally lost track of bugs :P

What is still being problematic? The only thing I have on my list is Proxy support and pressing X on the opening dialog allows you to continue.


Questions; (These are to anyone that feels like answering, not just beta testers :P )

1. Should a account username & password field be added to the quick switch data? I know gm9 uses this info in his UI, I've always shied away from that, but really in the end it is the users choice to supply it. If you all think it should be there I'll add it.
2. Should I move the Run Application list out of the EQ2 tab and into it's own tab?
3. Should I beg someone to write documentation because I just absolutely hate doing it?
4. Should I get more sleep at night and quit fiddling with things and just release it.
5. Should I quit my job and become a professional bum?

[dragowulf]

#1. if it helps customizeability do it
#2. EDIT:YES
#3. not it
#5. don't get it released until i say
#6. who's to say you aren't already one?

or #A. You should make it usable for the new station launcher (have a bullet box to pick either the station launcher or the old eq2 launcher)


drago.

[dragowulf]

Ok, here are a couple thoughts.

1. You should take out "Run App List" from the Everquest II tab. You should make it it's own tab.
-----a. Make an option under settings or the "Run App List" tab that uses the same behavior as how the everquest launch works.

-------(Ex: if "Run with the Everquest 2 launcher process" is checked, than when you click cancel all, it will cancel the the Everquest 2 autolauncher [as normal] and it will cancel the applications that would of ran as well, but if it is not checked it will run as normal and when you click cancel all it only cancels the everquest 2 launch but not the application launch and will still launch those)

if you get what i mean, if not ill make you a screenshot.

and....

2. You should make a bullet box to pick either the new station launcher or the old eq2 launcher since it's in beta and coming out soon


drago.

[gm9]

I guess the answer is yes to all.

And some thoughts on the password question: I'm actually a bit paranoid computer security wise (having some history myself of getting into other people's systems for fun when I was younger, so I know how easy it is) and my systems are certainly better secured than most. However, I never really understood why storing the eq2 login data makes many so nervous. Yes it is the user's decision, but in any case if someone can locally or remotely access the user's computer to read the EQ2 password that user has far bigger problems anyway. It's not like in that situation he could not as easily get rooted or at least have a keylogger installed. Many people probably have their eq2 login stored in their browser anyway for easy forum access - far more likely to get it into wrong hands like that than by writing it into some XML on your harddrive. And again, just by providing that option you are not forcing anybody to use it. Just my 2c...

[dragowulf]

These are some typos I see on the about section

Problems were highlighted in bold, and I found them in Microsoft Word 2007, besides the name one. :P

---------------------------

This program is distributed free of charge in the hope that it will be useful.

BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS LICENSED FREE OF CHARGE, THERE IS
NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED
BY APPLICABLE LAW. I PROVIDE THE PROGRAM "AS IS" WITHOUT
WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED,
INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE
PROGRAM IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE PROGRAM PROVE
DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY
SERVICING, REPAIR, OR CORRECTION.

IN NO EVENT UNLESS REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW WILL I OR
ANY PARTY RELATED THIS APPLICATION BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR
DAMAGES, INCLUDING ANY GENERAL, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR
CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF THE USE OR INABILITY
TO USE THE PROGRAM (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO LOSS OF
DATA OR DATA BEING RENDERED INACCURATE OR LOSSES
SUSTAINED BY YOU OR THIRD PARTIES OR A FAILURE OF THE
PROGRAM TO OPERATE WITH ANY OTHER PROGRAMS), EVEN IF
SUCH HOLDER OR OTHER PARTY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.

Special thanks to the following people as they proved instrumental in testing
and fine tuning EQ2 Companion.

Dolby, gm9, dragowulf, jnils

Everquest II is a registered Trademark of Sony Online Entertainment.

--------------------------

you should probably just copy/paste the edited text so it's a little easier on you. anyways-EQ2C is almost ready for live


drago.

[gm9]

Originally Posted by dragowulf

SHOULD THE PROGRAM PROVE
DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY
SERVICING, REPAIR, OR CORRECTION.

Lol, yeah, where can I pay?

And I want to find typos too:

Originally Posted by dragowulf

IN NO EVENT UNLESS REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW WILL I OR
ANY PARTY RELATED TO THIS APPLICATION BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR

strike the "to you", you don't want to be liable to anybody (not that your license will help you much in that...)

also:

Originally Posted by dragowulf

EVEN IF
SUCH HOLDER OR OTHER PARTY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.

You haven't talked about a "holder" before, can't possibly be "such" holder then.