Same Problem every time with Maintained Mods.

Tooplex · #1 02-20-2007, 10:27 PM

(Mellani is my character that i play as)

I'm having the same problem with maintained mods Ive used these 6 maintained mods:

SageUI Maintained

Arre30EffectsMaintained

Godattes Maintained Spells

Mother's Maintained Spells

Geniva's Profit Maintained Slim (Reversed)

Profit Maintained Spell Window - Lite (Modified by Kenshiro)

And the problem is this:
After a fresh UI Start (Deleting the runnyeye_mellani_eq2_uisettings.ini) When i login the mod show fine and alright but if i quit the game then re log the maintained window has totally vanished! It just disappears cant see it cant find it to right click it nothing this happens with every single one of those 6 mods the only way to make it appear again is by deleting the runnyeye_mellani_eq2_uisettings.ini but even if you do do that then it would just dissapear again after you quit then log back in!

Someone please help i really dont understand this at all!

Please Please Help!

**gm9** · #2 02-21-2007, 03:27 AM

Not sure why it would disappear but the shortcut for bringing it back is Alt+M.

Tooplex · #3 02-21-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gm9

Not sure why it would disappear but the shortcut for bringing it back is Alt+M.

Alt+M does nothing

BUMP BUMP Someone please help!!!

ShadowProwler420 · #4 02-21-2007, 10:58 AM

F10 will cycle through three steps that toggle various UI settings...."Normal" view (any transparency/opacity settings are used), "Full On" (all active/open windows are shown at full view regardless what custom transparency/opacity settins are in place), and "Nothing" (no UI is shown, just game/world graphics).

Try going into the second view mentioned above. Perhaps that will allow you to see the maintained window. Then check the transparency/opacity settings on it. Maybe somehow/someway the settings on the window are being changed (which, I admit, is extremely peculiar....seeing that only one window is being affected and not the whole UI).

/shrug

Tooplex · #5 02-21-2007, 11:12 AM

Well this is odd its happening with the default Maintained menu as well! Ill try that F10 thing.

Tooplex · #6 02-21-2007, 11:15 AM

I tryed the F10 thing and like i said it has completely Vanished! Whats going off?

Tooplex · #7 02-22-2007, 02:02 PM

What do you think then?

**gm9** · #8 02-22-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tooplex

What do you think then?

I'm still at work. I'll look at your file once I get to it.

Until then use ProfitUI, as you said that works fine for you.

Laffs · #9 02-22-2007, 09:13 PM

Lol .. a shameless plug there GM9

Actualy I have had the same problem before and the only thing that fixed it was deleteing the char settings file... and that happend quite a while back not just recently I might add.. And at the time I was switching UI's other than my own, to try them first hand rather than look at code and pictures, When I reverted back to default and also my own I lost the maintained window.. I think maybe it just could happen from doing that in rare cases...

Either way deleting the char settings file sorted the problem for me at least.

**Landiin** · #10 02-22-2007, 10:20 PM

Look at pos $FD8E in that file. If you take that pos AND it with $FFFF then make sure the the value at the calculated pos is the same as the one at $FD8E. If it is not something is wrong because it has to be the same value.

(yes I've been looking at code to long, I'm losing it.)

Tooplex · #11 02-22-2007, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Landiin

Look at pos $FD8E in that file. If you take that pos AND it with $FFFF then make sure the the value at the calculated pos is the same as the one at $FD8E. If it is not something is wrong because it has to be the same value.

(yes I've been looking at code to long, I'm losing it.)

You have totally lost me explain in layman's terms please Ive only played the game for 4 days im not a whiz at this????

Guruguru · #12 02-23-2007, 12:09 PM

I am a Japanese. I am weak in English.
I may not understand all posts of this thread definitely.
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But I want to report it.
This problem is not a problem only for Tooplex.
I read two posts of the same problem in Japanese community at the end of the year.

I was not able to reproduce the same problem.
The solution was not found.

**gm9** · #13 02-24-2007, 05:34 AM

I may have some time later today to look at it.

With my UI I had some people that always lost the bottom stat bar and the problem had me wondering until someone posted his broken uisettings. We'll see.

**gm9** · #14 02-25-2007, 07:23 AM

Alright, finally managed to take a look. Unfortunately, your maintained window position is not even defined in your uisettings file. That happens if you never moved or manipulated the maintained window before.

So for all purposes, that file is fine and should be working, the maintained window should appear in its default position as defined in the maintained window .xml file. /shrugs

Tooplex · #15 02-25-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gm9

Alright, finally managed to take a look. Unfortunately, your maintained window position is not even defined in your uisettings file. That happens if you never moved or manipulated the maintained window before.

So for all purposes, that file is fine and should be working, the maintained window should appear in its default position as defined in the maintained window .xml file. /shrugs

I KNOW read my post please

"if i don't move the maintained window then it does not disappear but if i move it even one centimeter then it would disappear"

I haven't moved it but if i do it disappears Now can i have some useful advice please!

**Faetyl** · #16 02-25-2007, 04:05 PM

Thor's "useful" advice:

1.) Treat those who are attempting to help you with respect no matter how frustrated you are.

2.) Your issue; although specific with the "Maintained Window", you haven't narrowed the issue down. I would recommend you pick one maintained window and start troubleshooting from there. (Having lots of options is great but when there is an issue with them it's best to focus on one at a time...) Those attempting to assit you are left wondering where to begin.

3.) Steps to take to help others help you:

3a.) Pick one maintained window that you like and stick with it. (I've attached a version for you to try to this post)

3b.) Delete your "character's window placements file"
3c.) Log in game and ensure you can see the maintained window. (Don't move it yet)
While in game also ensure that "allow windows off screen" is disabled via ALT-O>User Interface>Game Windows.
3d.) Log out "camp to desktop" then log back in and see if the maintained window is still viewable.
3e.) Hopefully it is still viewable... Now's the time to try moving it... Move it then log out "camp to desktop". Then log back in and check on the maintained window.
3f.) Post your findings here in detail and also attach the maintained window you chose to use and your character's window placements file.

4.) We'll see what we can figure our from there.

Remember: if it gets to frustrating for you, just use the default interface for the time being. (Just remeber that you should delete your character's window placements file if you decide to do so.) You can always just move it to a backup folder for later...

**Landiin** · #17 02-25-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tooplex

I KNOW read my post please

"if i don't move the maintained window then it does not disappear but if i move it even one centimeter then it would disappear"

I haven't moved it but if i do it disappears Now can i have some useful advice please!

Seems these fine people (other then me) are trying to help you but I guess that's just my opinion.

So I'm going to start over and hold your hand while we go through this.

1. You said it is doing this with the default ui?
2. You said you have deleted you uisettings.ini file 10 times?

If you answer yes to Booth of the above questions do the following.

1. Delete every file that has _eq2_uisettings.ini in its file name from your everquest directory.
2. Delete eq2.ini
3. Delete eq2_default.ini
4. Delete eq2_recent.ini

Start EverQuest2 via the patcher. Once you are in game cast a maintained spell/skill. See if the maintain window shows up then. If not make sure the spell/skill is in effect, you can tell by the spell/skill being darkened.

If after all of that doesn't work, I don't know what to tell you, other then open up a CS ticket with SOE.

**gm9** · #18 02-25-2007, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tooplex

I KNOW read my post please

"if i don't move the maintained window then it does not disappear but if i move it even one centimeter then it would disappear"

I haven't moved it but if i do it disappears Now can i have some useful advice please!

So what help to you think I can give you by inspecting a uisettings file where your window hasn't yet disappeared. Thanks for wasting my time. /boggle