Unofficial maps in game - Page 27

Quib · #**651** 01-30-2005, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Killarny

The down below entrance in Elddar Grove is pointing to something off the map as well. It should be pointing to 518.58, -17,13, -397.15. I had assumed that this was an SOE bug, but perhaps not? There are many problems with paths in North and South Qeynos as well.

Any errors with pathfindlocations or icon placements in the maps that are default and provided by SOE are 99% likely bugs from SOE. We haven't messed with them much besides correcting SOE's errors.

Oh, and your corrected pathfindlocation has been commited to the xml. ^_~

Quib

sunthas · #**652** 01-31-2005, 01:03 AM

stormhold level 2 in 3d.

Oodoe@Oggok · #**653** 01-31-2005, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sunthas

stormhold level 2 in 3d.

That Looks Great Sunthas

Charli · #**654** 01-31-2005, 11:07 AM

Someone REALLY needs to come up with a guide on "How to Map" a zone. With links to all the software needed. I can think of a bunch of zones that really need mapping, Like Nektropos Castle for one. I'd love to map it but all I know how to do is make a /loc button and run around clicking it.

tonyis3l33t · #**655** 01-31-2005, 11:27 AM

here ya go. I have uploaded this before, but im sure other people havent searched this thread just like you

Voik · #**656** 01-31-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyis3l33t

here ya go. I have uploaded this before, but im sure other people havent searched this thread just like you

Perhaps you should update the 1st post of this thread with this type of information.

Charli · #**657** 01-31-2005, 12:15 PM

You know what would be really cool (although I'm unsure if it's possible) would be if the maps were Vertex based like Clipart is. They'd be scaleble to any size and be really small. They'd also be VERY easy to create from /loc points. But since I know nothing about XML my idea is prolly just noob foolishness.

Quib · #**658** 01-31-2005, 12:39 PM

Unfortunately, EQ2 doesn't support point based maps (like EQ1 used). You didn't really ask for something noobish (EQ1 uses an XML UI and it has point based maps), it's just a matter of not understanding what XML is. It isn't programming; it's a textual representation of graphics. Although we have some flexibility with OnEvent properties to pseudo-program, XML is really just another form of graphics file.

Nearly everything you see that changes dynamically on the UI (number values, gauges, the arrow on the map, etc.) is a hardcoded function of EQ2; XML is just telling EQ2 where that change happens.

I have mixed feelings about point based maps. They'd be much uglier than what "can" be done with EQ2's mapping system; they'd also be much easier to make and more accurate.

Quib

Hayldric · #**659** 01-31-2005, 01:30 PM

I downloaded the most recent zip file of this mod but it doesn't have all the maps that are listed... is that on purpose or a bug?

Or are the only selectable maps the ones whre there are multiple maps to a zone?

tonyis3l33t · #**660** 01-31-2005, 01:55 PM

go and download the mod if you want everything. This is a development thread, not meant for everyone to download and use as a mod

Quib · #**661** 01-31-2005, 02:14 PM

Quoted from http://www.eq2interface.com/download...php?s=&id=3391:
"Maps automatically load when you enter a zone! The select map tab is to choose icon overlays for Antonica, The Commonlands or Thundering Steppes and to showcase the multi-floor maps."

I'll bold and underline that paragraph when we get to the next official release. Also gonna redo the acknowledgements section of the readme to more clearly show the amazing effort put in by people who've helped directly with this project (diztorded and taco-man to name a few) as opposed to website links that should get a seperate listing.

Quib

diztorded · #**662** 01-31-2005, 05:54 PM

The FG map looks AMAZING! One point though is that the circle room in the NE area is below the passages. The map has the circle area above. Also, the walls do not match up in the center with where you actually are. On the edges,NESW corners, it matches up perfectly. I rechecked the /loc numbers and they match. Is there something that I can do to maybe correct this? I personally do not see it as a BIG deal because it is heads over heals better then what we had before, nothing.

I will start getting important places tonight and will start work on Clearwater which is the zone below Serpent Sewers.

As a note to all of us who have had a hand in this project, I assisted a person outside this community with the installation of this mod and her reaction was, well, extatic. She could not stop thanking me and thought that this was just an amazing piece of work. (This is where you pat yourself on the back for a job well done!)

Killarny · #**663** 01-31-2005, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quib

Quoted from http://www.eq2interface.com/download...php?s=&id=3391:
"Maps automatically load when you enter a zone! The select map tab is to choose icon overlays for Antonica, The Commonlands or Thundering Steppes and to showcase the multi-floor maps."

I'll bold and underline that paragraph when we get to the next official release. Also gonna redo the acknowledgements section of the readme to more clearly show the amazing effort put in by people who've helped directly with this project (diztorded and taco-man to name a few) as opposed to website links that should get a seperate listing.

Quib

It would be great if the icons would automatically load, so you could get rid of the select map tab entirely. For the purpose of viewing other zones than the one you are in - I think the select map tab is too buggy and incomplete to be used for that.

Edit: I didn't mean that to sound demanding at all, I'm just making a suggestion

sunthas · #**664** 01-31-2005, 06:54 PM

Everyone I've talked to loved the mod!

Eloa · #**665** 02-01-2005, 05:22 AM

Ok this database is coming along exceptionally fast, php was easy to learn once you get a couple weird things outta the way. I've got the submission system up, now all I have to do is set up how to read the information and make a small little interface and get it up and running and information exchange between us and the users will be easy as hell.

tonyis3l33t · #**666** 02-01-2005, 06:06 AM

eloa, awesome

will be more popular than allakhazam with that one

draig · #**667** 02-01-2005, 08:10 AM

Is that DB/site ready

?

ger · #**668** 02-01-2005, 09:33 AM

Question about the overlay icons: it looks to me like each color represents a specific type of location (i.e. creature spawn, discovery location, quest location, et cetera) Is this the case? If so, what are the color equivalences?

I started playing around with the icon file to change the "you are here" indicator and started thinking "wouldn't it be cool if the other icons looked like what they represent?" So, just wanted to make sure I was changing them to the right things before I mess up y'all's wonderful mod.

Quib · #**669** 02-01-2005, 11:23 AM

Yes the color of the icons mean something, I don't recall exactly which color goes with what type of point of interest.

Quib

sunthas · #**670** 02-01-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Eloa

Ok this database is coming along exceptionally fast, php was easy to learn once you get a couple weird things outta the way. I've got the submission system up, now all I have to do is set up how to read the information and make a small little interface and get it up and running and information exchange between us and the users will be easy as hell.

here is my PHP database website: http://eq2.evilvsgood.com Need to update it more oftne, its more fun to play though than update the site.

tonyis3l33t · #**671** 02-01-2005, 12:03 PM

blue=loc (just the place itself)
orange=mob
red=named mob
green=NPC
light blue=quest

Quib · #**672** 02-01-2005, 12:17 PM

"i think white was meant to be quest"
A really light blue dot is a quest spot. There's a few of these on various maps but not many.

Also, before you consider redoing the icons, ger, we're sticking with the dots as they are easy to place and aren't huge and cumbersome like the default icons.

Quib

ger · #**673** 02-01-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Quib

"i think white was meant to be quest"
A really light blue dot is a quest spot. There's a few of these on various maps but not many.

Also, before you consider redoing the icons, ger, we're sticking with the dots as they are easy to place and aren't huge and cumbersome like the default icons.

Quib

Well, before seeing this I found the last bit in your XML that marks everything, so that made life easier. As for size, I'm not doing anything nearly as large as the default icons. I'll attach a screenshot to show you what I mean…

As you can see in the screenshot, I'm still tweaking the icon sizes—they seem to be clipping at the bottom/right, despite matching the dot size and the XML bounds correctly. *shrug* I'll figure it out eventually. I'm also still working on what icons to use for some of them, since they don't show up as recognizably as I'd like.

Right now I have it set to:

Location: blue campfire
NPC: green walking man
MOB: orange dog paw
Named MOB: red crown
Quest location: light blue checked box

The campfire, crown, and checked box aren't showing up quite right, so those will likely be changed…I'm open to suggestions. (And feel free to suggest again that I abandon the changes, just trying to make myself useful while I figure all this stuff out

)

tonyis3l33t · #**674** 02-01-2005, 03:51 PM

it actually seems harder to see to me...like a chopped up circle they are so small...

maybe because im tired, but a lot of people play with droopy eyes

I like circles better

Quib · #**675** 02-01-2005, 04:06 PM

I get what you're doing! Since this is simply a graphics file swap, I don't see why this is a bad thing, it's simply an optional version of the icon_map3.dds file.

Personally, I find it clever; the more of the 20x20 segment of the dds file per icon you use, the more visible they'll be.

Quib