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is there any way at all to work out a drag and drop on a group window
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is there any way at all to work out a drag and drop on a group window
I don't think so. That functionality was added to the raid window by SOE, I don't think there's anything we can do to try and rearrange the group window.
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I assume this is about changing the position at which group members appear on the group window (because I can't imagine anything else you would want to drag'n'drop)? While it's theoretically possible to mod some way to rearrange it on the fly (notwithstanding some hardcoding of the order by SOE), I somewhat fail to see the point and in any case don't think the effort to code this well would be worth it. But I don't think it's impossible.
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This is something I've been wanting for a while, but haven't put serious thought into coding. The reasoning behind it, for me at least, is dual-boxing. Typically I use a nostromo game pad for my 2nd box (healer). It's keys are mapped to f1-f6 & 1-9. I have a single hotbar that has the essentials. I am all about full disclosure and let anyone that I group with know that I'm boxing. If I start the group, my primary box is f2, and everyone else in the group is in the same order on both boxes. If someone else starts the group, the group starter is f2 and my window order is not the same (members coming and going and linkdeads add to the problem). I really can't pay attention to both monitors. I use the primary box's group window to know who to heal.

Rearranging the window also needs to reassign the targetting hotkey for my purposes anyway.

When grouping with friends, I often ask them to reform the group with me inviting everyone to make my life easier.
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Simply rearanging stuff in a single window is easy, but this wouldn't change the FKey assignments for group members.

Real drag and drop involves a drag source, drag proxy, and drop target.

In SOE script there's no curos cord feedback, no drag event, no mouseDown timer to use in faking a drag event, and no mouseOver event to determine the drop target. All drag opperations are currently handeled by code on SOE's end. Once their code decides a drag opperation has started, we have no way to control what happens during the drag, drop, or what the drag proxy looks like.

Now you could fake some simple dragDrop stuff, but it would be cludgey and have limited fnctionality.
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Simply rearanging stuff in a single window is easy, but this wouldn't change the FKey assignments for group members.
Exactly. You can move the group members around visually, but to me what good is it if the F-keys and such remain the same. Just the visual to me wouldn't help, since the main reason I can see for moving them would be for targeting (F-keys).
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Drag & drop aside, and assuming the mod would require 2 buttons (shift left, shift right) on each group member's page, are there any /commands that might help with reassignment of the fkeys?
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Bind F2-F6 on a hotbar
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I don't know of any commands, but you could probably come up with keymaps for each possible configuration and load them via the script. Otherwise use macros on a hotbar to target the group members (kinda what Drumstix meant).
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This is something I've been wanting for a while, but haven't put serious thought into coding. The reasoning behind it, for me at least, is dual-boxing. Typically I use a nostromo game pad for my 2nd box (healer). It's keys are mapped to f1-f6 & 1-9. I have a single hotbar that has the essentials. I am all about full disclosure and let anyone that I group with know that I'm boxing. If I start the group, my primary box is f2, and everyone else in the group is in the same order on both boxes. If someone else starts the group, the group starter is f2 and my window order is not the same (members coming and going and linkdeads add to the problem). I really can't pay attention to both monitors. I use the primary box's group window to know who to heal.

Rearranging the window also needs to reassign the targetting hotkey for my purposes anyway.

When grouping with friends, I often ask them to reform the group with me inviting everyone to make my life easier.
All you'd need to do with the speedpad is to set up the exact same key assignments but just change the group keys. Then put that set up on another bank of keys. The Nostromo allows you to remap the keys on each bank seperately from the other banks, shouldn't be that hard to do, unless you are using all 3 (or is it 4) banks of keys.
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