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Question The Ruins of Ssraeshza [Heroic] confusion

Excuse me Please:

first off, i do not know how or where to address this subtle problem.

in making submission of informative POI for last room of the above zone, one that is seemingly divergent from the solo that the help point of was needed, the maps were not showing up correctly.

this is what mostly shows up in-game, correctly indicating bottom floor of last room of dungeon.


however, on occasion, in-game map just showed a plain square room, as did the submission website, not the four side-rooms as is shown above.

the POIs are submitted, but also, do not make sense for map shown.
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Thanks for the input.
When i did some investigation i can see that we are missing 3 maps for that zone.

I will fix it.
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just to be clear, and i do not know if this is related, depending on where i stood on that lowest floor, the in-game map would change between the singular square room and the four-tiered room.

also, as i presently still have access to the cleared dungeon, is there anything i can do to help?
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The missing maps are now live.

Could you please provide some good names for the maps, they are now named 0-3
But i would like some better suffix like :
Level 1
West
Floor 3

Ill hope you get it.

I have no idea how these maps work.
Are there 3 maps for every instance ?

Seems the same maps are missing for solo to and some more zones.

This is what we got:
<ImageStyle Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_0" displayname="The Ruins of Ssraeshza [Heroic] 0" zonerect="-184.00, -144.00, 189.00, 140.00" />
<ImageStyle Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_1" displayname="The Ruins of Ssraeshza [Heroic] 1" zonerect="-354.00, -413.00, 421.00, 167.00" />
<ImageStyle Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_2" displayname="The Ruins of Ssraeshza [Heroic] 2" zonerect="-350.00, 156.00, 579.00, 850.00" />
<ImageStyle Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_3" displayname="The Ruins of Ssraeshza [Heroic] 3" zonerect="13.00, 405.00, 502.00, 757.00" />
<ImageStyle Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_solo_0" displayname="The Ruins of Ssraeshza [Solo]" zonerect="-184.00, -144.00, 189.00, 140.00" />

And these we are missing not yet added:
<ImageStyle displayname="The Ruins of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_solo_1" />
<ImageStyle displayname="The Ruins of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_solo_2" />
<ImageStyle displayname="The Ruins of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_solo_3" />
<ImageStyle displayname="The Vault of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_02_0" />
<ImageStyle displayname="The Vault of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_02_1" />
<ImageStyle displayname="The Vault of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_02_3" />
<ImageStyle displayname="The Vault of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_02_solo_0" />
<ImageStyle displayname="The Vault of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_02_solo_1" />
<ImageStyle displayname="The Vault of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_02_solo_3" />
<ImageStyle displayname="The Venom of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_03_0" />
<ImageStyle displayname="The Venom of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_03_1" />
<ImageStyle displayname="The Venom of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_03_3" />
<ImageStyle displayname="The Venom of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_03_solo_0" />
<ImageStyle displayname="The Venom of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_03_solo_1" />
<ImageStyle displayname="The Venom of Ssraeshza" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_03_solo_3" />
<ImageStyle displayname="Ssraeshza's Hallowed Halls" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_raid_01_1" />
<ImageStyle displayname="Ssraeshza's Hallowed Halls" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_raid_01_2" />
<ImageStyle displayname="Ssraeshza's Hallowed Halls" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_raid_01_3" />
<ImageStyle displayname="Ssraeshza's Hallowed Halls" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_raid_02_0" />
<ImageStyle displayname="Ssraeshza's Hallowed Halls" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_raid_02_1" />
<ImageStyle displayname="Ssraeshza's Hallowed Halls" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_raid_02_2" />
<ImageStyle displayname="Ssraeshza's Hallowed Halls" Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_raid_02_3" />
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alright if i understand correctly, list the maps known for Ruins:

<ImageStyle Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_0" displayname="The Ruins of Ssraeshza [Heroic] 0" zonerect="-184.00, -144.00, 189.00, 140.00" />
<ImageStyle Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_1" displayname="The Ruins of Ssraeshza [Heroic] 1" zonerect="-354.00, -413.00, 421.00, 167.00" />
<ImageStyle Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_2" displayname="The Ruins of Ssraeshza [Heroic] 2" zonerect="-350.00, 156.00, 579.00, 850.00" />
<ImageStyle Name="exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_3" displayname="The Ruins of Ssraeshza [Heroic] 3" zonerect="13.00, 405.00, 502.00, 757.00" />

However, I am unsure, based on /locs where the above maps point to, i think these are somewhat incorrect.

This is main floor


also, main floor when using in-game poi submission tool present as:
The Ruins of Ssraeshza [Heroic] 0
(exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_0)


four-tiered room has loc: -35.34 -149.58 -60.64
but, if the first of the four map options is selected, only the main floor map displays. (i.e. in-game map does not update for change in elevation, in this case, declination)
if, however, selecting the second option from the drop-down, the room displays as expected for location and assigning POIs:



which all these rooms self-identify as The Ruins of Ssraeshza [Heroic] 1
(exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_1)

(i have added a large number of lacking POIs, teleporters, object locations, Room Names for Ruins.{presently working on Vault})


additionally, The Vault of Ssraeshza [Heroic] is identified as (exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_02_2) but shows up when using dropdown for The Ruins of Ssraeshza [Heroic]
with loc of main floor as: -262.58 -161.09 782.32
additionally, with group member separately in Vault, i in Ruins, they do not show up on dropdown map, suggesting they are in an entirely different instance.
the following maps seem to suggest ought be removed from Ruins dropdown, as they apply to Vault only.
eg.




also, in-game POI submission causes website to not populate Zone dropdown for Vault room called Vorzshir, Chamber of Ice (poi submitted)

The Vault of Ssraeshza [Heroic]
(exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_02_2)

which should look like the fourth Ruins dropdown:





ok, i think this post has become potentially too long; does what is provided here help in understanding the map breakdown(s)?
Please let me know if anything need be cleared up, if i have not explained well-enough; i would hope the above and submitted POIs will help.
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I vaguely recall some map issues back when this expansion was new. I didn't know much about the maps then. When standing in the basement, at the lowest point in the room, the map showed correctly (the map with one central room and four pointed rooms at each compass point). When standing elsewhere (or really most points in the basement), the map for the room directly above displayed instead (the large square room with a small hallway in the southwest).

Even though the images are provided by the game, we can possibly improve the user experience by manually setting the heightmin and heightmax values.
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The Ruins of Ssraeshza, The Vault of Ssraeshza, and The Venom of Ssraeshza were all heroic zones from Blood of Luclin. All three zones had a corresponding solo zone with the same map and bosses. There was also a raid zone named Ssraeshza's Hallowed Halls that used the same maps.
  • exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_0 = The main entrance to the Ruins heroic/solo zone, and the main entrance to the raid zone.
  • exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_1 = A four-part map containing the remaining rooms of Ruins. The central four-pointed room is directly below the main entrance in the previous map. All of these rooms are present in the raid zone.
  • exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_2 = A two-part map containing the entirety of Venom (small northwest room) and most of Vault (long east room). Both rooms are part of the raid zone.
  • exp16_dun_ssraeshza_mines_01_3 = A large cavern found directly underneath the rest of Vault. This room is also in the raid zone.

In other words,
  • The Ruins of Ssraeshza [Solo/Heroic] uses maps 0 and 1
  • The Vault of Ssraeshza [Solo/Heroic] uses maps 2 and 3
  • The Venom of Ssraeshza [Solo/Event Heroic] only uses map 2
  • Ssraeshza's Hallowed Halls [Raid] uses all maps 0, 1, 2, and 3
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