yeppers i had all deleted before i tried to load new ..
don't know what i did, but they seem ok now.
moved all to the opposite side of screen, then relocated back and they're cooperating now..
now my chat is loused up..
i have main chat set to /say for default (upon enter)... IF i speak in guild chat, somehow the default switches from /say to guild and i can not see nor speak in /say. i have it set to NOT switch (under options) have yet to figure how to correct this annoyance
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