Wow, anyone else get this email this morning from ebgames.com?
 

That pre-ordered eq2 from there that is:

Thanks for pre-ordering from EBgames.com! As an added benefit to ordering from us, we’ll keep you informed of ship date changes. We are writing to let you know that the publisher has set a new ship date for Everquest 2 of November, 8th 2004. As always, EBgames.com will not charge your credit card until we ship your order.


Hope that's for real. I got picked into beta the other day and I can't even get this thing to download right so no beta for me at all and going crazy cause I can't play this great game. >_<

That is interesting, they have changed all their EQ2 product dates to Nov 8th where they previously were listed as Nov 15th. I haven't seen "official" word from SoE or Blizzard on their games, but assuming that the previous Nov 15th date for both releases was correct, then this looks like a move to get out a week ahead of the competition. Of course it's all meaningless until it's in your hand.

It works for me!

Im confused but im not going to question a good thing :)

Shipping Nov 8th would mean a Nov 9th release date (they ship 1 day before). Nov 9th does fall on a Tues which is the normal day for new movies and games to hit the stores.

Sooo maybe there is some truth to the rumor. (No, I have no idea they don' tell me either).

Like were gonna believe that.... we know they told ya... cause your:

Kudane - The Man

and we all know that if anyone knows, The Man would know... or it would be That Guy, and That Guy usually doesn't know. :D

Course I could just be talking out my arse, which is most likely beings I'm stuck at work on a Friday and I really don't wanna be here (no big suprize). :eek:

Holy *bleep*.

Dear Lord... I honestly dont know if I like the sound of that. I hate it when they release games on beta. Here they were saying that they would'nt not release it if it was'nt to their finished liking. Thats why I quit SWG... could'nt stand all the bugs they had and balance issues within the first 6 months of release. They never addressed some of them till much later.

Oh well... we shall see huh?

Well, you see the post where I say "i don't know either"... let me tell ya two words.

Plausable Deniabilty

hehehe

Just kidding.. I really don't know on this one. SOE is keeping this one REALLY close to the vest. Last time I saw Moorgard I asked "Hey is the rumored Release date for real?" and all I got was a half-grin (kind of like your kidding right?) smile and a stare... after 2 mins of the stare I said "forget I asked" hehehe.

That is good and bad thing!
 

I just hope everyting goes well, kind of scares me when they move the date around, even if it's a closer date :eek: . Still have not gotten beta :( but oh well and trying to set up my Avatar right now, just looking for the right look. Oh yeah the good thing, it's a closer date :D ! it's a 50/50 thing i guess.

Hmmmm, I dunno Kudane.... I try not to read to much into thing, especially as of late. But if MG was staring at you for 2 minutes.... I'd have been gettin a funny feelin... Wonder if SOE has real Ninjas? If we don't hear from you for a few days, then we will know they got you!

Sometimes, ebgames does that to get better sales, knowing that sometimes those release dates are phoney, they place them there to get more money. But, I haven't the slightest clue, guess we'll find out on the 9th.

I am hearing New Release date
 

Yes its a rumor, but there is not really any specific of why.. but ebgame use to have EQ2 out of Nov 15th, now its Nov 8th... hmmm makes me wonder!

check out the link http://eq2.ogaming.com/

Basically what Ogaming is saying is what they took a screenshot of



What we already knew.. No official announcement yet.

but soon..

yeah ;) I think Smeds word is the authority right now. I'm going by that. Because two weeks from now imho is just a joke!

Early release?
 

So retail sites have started showing EQ2 with a release date of November 8th or 9th. I was just wondering what some of you might think about this. Is it too early? Is the game far from finished? Or are the bugs minor and should this game hit the shelves ASAP? :confused:

There are three retailers that all have upped their release/shipping dates to Nov 8th/9th per the "publisher" as the email said.

Retailers don't up dates unless they are told. Smedly's statement is naturally ambigous, but yet doesn't deny the Nov 9th date.

Honestly, I feel the game's not ready and SOE will mostly likely shoot themselves in the foot in the race against WoW. But, that's just me. Others naturally feel the other way about it (most of which aren't in EQII beta naturally).

Heck, I can't even log in now due to the infamous "Creating entities" stuck bug that's currently pledging the forums.

*Edit; hum, think if the game's getting released here in a couple weeks, they'll finally turn on the ability to load custom UIs? With all the other problems and bugs in EQII, I don't think we'll see that until the first week of Nov at the very list. Most likely it'll be forgotten until a bit after release. :p

Not saying SOE isn't making a priority, just saying with them upping the date and the Devs were already working 12-14 hour days (plus weekends), I can see this easily slipping through the cracks.

I'm currently not in beta, so this post may be a little bias.

I personally don't mind a game being released with bugs in it...just as long as the publisher is working and doing the best they can to correct those bugs in a timely manner. I understand that beta testing is done to try to catch as many problems as possible, but what better way to test then to let everyone play the game. By doing this, they will at least see what kind of load the servers can handle (because you know the servers are going to get hammered the first day!) :) Take Lineage II for example...I was in the beta for that and felt the game was a little behind where it should have been by release, but it went well for them. They didnt release the seige parts until after release, but I really haven't heard anything bad. I don't mind Sony putting EQII out a little early...who knows what they are going to correct in the next 2 weeks. You could be surprised! Lets at least hope! :p

Games like EQ, SWG, etc, etc will always be released with bugs, and they will always have bugs. Ive been playing EQ1 for 4 years now and there are still bugs with it. Why? Because its a game that always changes. EQ2 will have expansions and many many updates. In EQ1 i have a 70 ranger thats 3 kills away from my new epic but the clicky on the ranger epic is bugged. That goes for other quests for other players and many other things. Expect it to be bugged and just put in constant /bug reports. Its the only way to fix things.

Even at work, I have never seen a software package without bugs. That does not mean they should release eq2 today, all I am saying if you think they are going to hold off until soe thinks they have a near perfect game, you are sadly mistaken. Marketing and competition does influence release dates. Look at it as an open beta without an official announcement as such. Oh, and open beta will cost you $50 to join.

There's your general small bugs and there's your massive game effecting stability bugs. EQII has both. I'm going to compare this release with the release of GoD and near release of OoW (remember, Smedly was going to release OoW 4 weeks earlier than it did if it wasn't for Woody's boycott).

I think SOE might have some things going on behind the scenes. I know the current beta is buggy, but i think they have some major updates coming up that will hopefully change that. We'll see of SOE dishes it out next few days.

I'm not worried about them releasing it with a few bugs... they have always released their EQ expansions with bugs and then fixed them up later. I'd rather have the game now with a few bugs that will get fixed in a matter of a week or 2, then no game til they fix a few bugs that might not even mean anything to me yet.

But I'm just really anxious to play, so don't mind me. :)

Send me a PM.

Maybe they have you the wrong download URL. You cant find the url or is the download just not working correctly?

Nov. 8th was the first date that EB and GameStop gave as the release..(Same company). They later changed the date to the 15th around the time Beta first started. WoW has a 15th release and I see this as a lets get it out first thing. WoW was always the 15th so sony can mop up on all the I don't know yets. A few days does not matter much when it comes to tweeking the game. I feel it has no Class A bugs ( Game stopping bugs...Crashes and such). So they are going for the early release. Many companys want it class A gone before release and hopfully most class b and c are managable. No game is ever bug free on release and it never will be!! I know some companies have a bug free name out there but its just that they have few bugs and there low level. With such a big project like this i'm sure any game of this size will have bugs even after the patch but.....so will the rest!!

Well, per an email I just received from GameStop (where I have pre-ordered EQ2)...

You have signed up to receive release date changes for:
EverQuest II Online DVD-ROM

Old Release Date - 11/15/2004
New Release Date - 11/9/2004

So maybe the rumors are true. :rolleyes:

Thats a driver problem with Directx. I had the same problem yesterday after the maintenance. Which put in the newest directx enhancements. I put brand new video card drivers and viola.

Try and do that. Mine works fine now.

DaVamp

I have the lasted nVidia drivers. :(

Nah, that's not it. I have direcway for highspeed internet(all I can get out where I live other than dial up). and they got this stupid Fair Access Policy that prevents me from downloading a little more than 200mb a day and can't do nothing about it. I'd drop them if there was a alternate highspeed I could use but there's not. I'm currently at 1gb on the download, MAYBE I'll be able to play in a week from now I'm hoping at least. :)

Hope so too

I'm in beta... and I dont think its rdy personally. I say give it one more month. The rest of things should smooth out by then.

Btw... anyone know if they increased exp earned on beta so people could play all the levels and give feedback? I'm leveling at a pretty quick rate.

Re-install DirectX

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

And just to be sure Nvidia's are at

http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

Version: 61.77
Release Date: July 27, 2004

I updated my VIA drivers and installed the Omega nVidia drivers, I was able to get pass the issue now. I still think there's something SOE can do to fix that though.


Btw, the Date seems pretty firmed. There's reports from actual employees of these retailers saying they were told *directly from SOE* to up the date to Nov 9th. There's almost no way SOE can back down now w/out getting some massive greifs from the retailers (and the last thing you want to do is piss off your retail supply).

Smedly didn't deny it, which you would expect them to do. Instead he just said we'll be told "soon". My guess is at the Fan Fair they'll announce Nov 9th Release (you know, big "Just over a week left!" bash).

I've already decided I'm not playing this game on retail. *If* I log in, it will be for 1 month subscription and just enough to tide me over until the release of WoW (I'd play WoW now, but honestly I'm pleased enough and rather keep new things "unknown").

I got the email from Gamestop also, from what little I've seen from a friend who's in Beta, the gameplay seems smooth enough and the bugs that we've found (with the exception of one of the Quenos quests) hardly seem to interfere with the overall smoothness of the game. I'll definatly be playing on release I just wish I could get in on the action beforehand.

Have Any doubt now?

Ironic that it's last "release" day (tuesday) just before WoW's *guessed* date? What ever it takes to stay ahead, I guess. Including releasing an unfinished game. :(

Having been a QA tester at Infogrames/Atari (Paid Game tester like the ones at SOE) Yes i'm talking Alpha stuff, No game...And I mean No Game is ever bug free when the package hits the shelf! Printing gives at least 2 weeks to work 24/7 on Class A bugs, show stoping stuff! SOE has made sure that there will be no A bugs because that means loss of players.

Most of the time the release date is set even before the game is first worked on. The real amazing thing with SOE is the fact that they never set one. I have never seen a company so set on making a good game regardless of the cost and time. What they are doing here is history.

I'm fine with the bugs and all, but this means that since I dont get paid until the third Friday in November, I'll have to go almost a month on my crappy old computer before I can upgrade to something that will actually run EQ2 respectably! Damn!

~Sariig

I understand that no game gets released bug free, but the bugs in EQII are quite compareable to the constant bugs in EQI. There's a big difference in "polishing" a game and still developing it. They are going to be releasing game altering content in the next patch, just a couple weeks before official release (and games go gold a couple weeks before release so they can get them to the retailers).

SOE's team is not known for their "strong" beta testing. You don't need to be a genious for that one, just a long time EQ player, like myself. This game is still in development, it's not near ready for polishing yet.

*Edit; for a good example for lack of testing, check out the problems that are just now being found in the switching of the UI. Can't even use /loadui multiple times w/out crashing...nor can you do other things. :(


Plese don't get me wrong. I do wish for a solid product. SOE has great potential in EQII, but I fear they are rushing just to get dibs on the market. They are known for these tactics; their history is *littered* with rush products and EQII is apperently no exception.

I completely agree and I also believe there are more things than just that as well that they need to be covering. Their release date is for competition purposes and thats that. I personally think people have made their opinions about the two great MMO's comming out. I think they can wait just a little longer for a better polished product. Not to mention that they better have a lot more than 3 servers for US LOL... even though they're only stress testing 3 now :p

There's tons of servers. They had them in the queue for a bit, about a 14 or so. They where in the queue but just "down" while Beta 1 and 2 were the only ones up.

12-14 servers, 4 character limits (yes, it was even stated they are *sticking* with the 4 character per account limit--BAD move. Talk about the LACK of diversity for a single player).