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Camar 09-04-2004 05:23 PM

EQII Beta
 
Anyone received their official EQII Beta invites yet?

ghesta 09-05-2004 11:56 AM

Would saying yes to this question violate the NDA?

Deathbane27 09-05-2004 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghesta
Would saying yes to this question violate the NDA?

Yes, it would.

Dolby 09-05-2004 08:36 PM

Its been asked and the answer was no it would not break the NDA saying your in beta. However you may get thousands of questions after you say your in. So you may not want to tell any one.

Just search the beta soe forums and you will find the answer too.

Kudane 09-05-2004 08:41 PM

I know that Beta has started, and saw on the SOE forums where people have posted thier amaze at having gotten thier invite emails.

Sooo agreeing with Dolby.. saying "yes" does not break the NDA.

Saying anything past that would most definately be a breach.

So dont ask question ROFL!

ghesta 09-06-2004 06:33 PM

Kinda one of those "If i told you Id have to kill you" kinda things then eh?

Sorvani 09-06-2004 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghesta
Would saying yes to this question violate the NDA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faarwolf from EQ2 forums
Discussing the game - even publicly saying that you got an invite - is a violation of the NDA and grounds for account suspension.

the above quote is located here.
http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/e...ssage.id=45231

Dolby 09-07-2004 07:20 AM

Thanks for that link, there is some conflicting information (cant say any more) and I'll bring that up to some one at SOE.

ghesta 09-07-2004 05:21 PM

/me zips mouth, throws key in a ditch.




DISCLAIMER - nothing said in the above post should be taken either way as confirmation nor denial of anything what so ever, up to and including the existance of the poster. Any assumption of events based on above material will be erronious and very very foolish. Plus, no one usually ever listens to me anyways.

ghesta 09-07-2004 05:25 PM

Hahah, i liked that disclaimer so much, I had to add it to my signature !!!

Kudane 09-07-2004 06:13 PM

i liked it.

hehehe

guice 09-08-2004 12:38 AM

I'm rather shocked stating that you're in Beta is against the NDA. Maybe cause it's not *quite* out in public closed beta (ie; SOE officially stating they are inviting folks that pre-registered?). Not sure. I'm always skeptic when SOE has to place such tight NDA on things. The word I hear on the streets is that EQII doesn't have that much special going for it. Many things I herd are on par with what CoH and WoW is doing (although it's still constantly changing).

Maybe some century I'll get into this beta and I can have fun tearing it apart. I love tearing apart games (I tear up their website all the time--btw, the EQII resign is an example of website redesign gone bad). :p

Centhena 09-09-2004 02:20 PM

yep disclaimer rocks hehe very funy :)

sokol 09-10-2004 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghesta
Hahah, i liked that disclaimer so much, I had to add it to my signature !!!

It was addressed on the SoE forums by SoE employees and it is ok to tell people your in beta without violating the NDA, but that is all you can say.


-Sokol

Sentrus 09-11-2004 04:59 PM

Legally Binding Answer
 
EverQuest II Beta Official NDA Excerpt

2.1 Confidential Information Defined. “Confidential Information” shall mean (a) any and all information relating to or contained in the Beta Software, Beta Program and/or the Game, including, without limitation...


Personally I'd say the knowledge of who is or is not Beta, is "relating to" the Beta Program.

Regardless of what anyone says in the Beta forums, they do not have the authority to amend the agreement.

Dolby 09-12-2004 01:18 AM

Let’s just say if you’re in beta you know if you can or can not say if you’re in it as it has been discussed many times now and the same answer has been given by the staff each time.


;)

Banalan 10-12-2004 04:50 PM

I guess then it isn't against any NDA to say I was NOT choosen for EQ 2 Beta? <Looks over at the useless box of Lords of Everquest and sighs> HA HA HA! :)

Kudane 10-12-2004 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banalan
I guess then it isn't against any NDA to say I was NOT choosen for EQ 2 Beta? <Looks over at the useless box of Lords of Everquest and sighs> HA HA HA! :)

well i have been told that if you bought LOE and registered in the time frame you *will* get in at some point. but that they never said when.

sooo don't give up yet.

PS. we have permission from SOE to announce the winners of the beta slots here. So those people can say they are in beta.. hehe

Serpentis 10-12-2004 05:52 PM

Ya, thats a good one! I'd use it too, but since you got it I'll leave you as the Disclaimer person :) Oh ya, and :p for finding it first

Serpentis 10-12-2004 05:59 PM

O ya, if your in beta, I'd say just keep that one to yourself for now anyway...or else have a ton of people you don't know standing outside your door all a sudden, or peakin thru your window. Hmmmm, that's almost kinda scarry.

Kudane 10-12-2004 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serpentis
O ya, if your in beta, I'd say just keep that one to yourself for now anyway...or else have a ton of people you don't know standing outside your door all a sudden, or peakin thru your window. Hmmmm, that's almost kinda scarry.

spaming your email

sending you PMs

Sending you AIMs

Buying you hookers.. er.. uh... scratch that..

hehehe

karis 10-12-2004 06:08 PM

LoL thats a very funny disclaimer hehe. :D

Serpentis 10-12-2004 06:09 PM

Well, just leave the beer next to the door and I might (if accepted) let ya take a look or even touch the keyboard & mouse. Hmmmm, dunno bout that buying the errr ummm, you know... I mean, that would be a distraction from playing....so that idea goes out the window.

Syndic 10-13-2004 02:01 AM

I love that disclaimer.

So what your saying is that the competition winners can say they are in Beta but other invitees can not?

Kudane 10-13-2004 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndic
I love that disclaimer.

So what your saying is that the competition winners can say they are in Beta but other invitees can not?


hehe no, i was just saying that we specifically asked about announcing winners.

so far I have not heard anyone getting in trouble for just saying "yep i am in beta"

corpor 10-13-2004 06:07 AM

Is it just my imagination or didnt I read somewhere about SOE relaxing the NDA in a way, for only levels 1-9, so that some fan sites may write an EQ2 Beta journal for instance?! :confused: I'll have to see if I can find that post again.

Drakkor 10-13-2004 04:57 PM

Relaxed NDA
 
They have relaxed the NDA for some specific sites (check EQTraders.com). And yes the information is currently only for beginning levels (outside of the info they have already released).

EQTraders has some links to other sites that have done a wonderful job of setting up newbie guilds and general FAQs.

Dolby 10-13-2004 05:21 PM

They are allowing some sites to release information and some sites to have beta journals. We just got the ok to have beta journals and you'll see Kudane and myself posting our adventures in EQ II.

Ecstasia 10-13-2004 06:25 PM

As I didn't really pay much attention to it at the time (was tired and such), I'm not sure how much of it is correct... but I recall seeing something about the NDA being lifted to 19th level for whichever few people.

guice 10-15-2004 05:31 AM

They are laxing up a bit on the NDA, but I think it is pretty stupid to actually put in the NDA that you're not allowed to tell people you're in beta. It's all over the place now, sites all over have contests (even thedruidsgrove.org, where I got my invite through).

Hopefully you're start to see more and more information gettings released. This game is very complex (more so than EQI) and hiding everything until release, I think, will be a HUDGE disadvantage to any new player.

Serpentis 10-15-2004 05:57 AM

I'd rather they kept most of it a mystery for now. Keeps the excitment going, and the.... LOL, Everquest for more info. The release of little bits of info here and there is enough to keep people in wonder without spoiling it.

Banalan 10-15-2004 06:43 AM

I don't know... me and my friends "sit around the water cooler" at work and talk about EQ 2 all the time. Yes, we are 30 something nerds and where did I put my pocket protector? I probably check the EQ 2 website 4 or 5 times a day for new information, I kinda lean towards the "tell me all about it right now before I lose my mind because I'm like a little kid waiting on Christmas which doesn't seem to ever be coming soon enough" response to this point.


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